No More Guts, Thrills, Betspin Etc For Aussies

[KasinoKing]

This is just crap.......... I dont understand.......

What you do now understand, is just how frustrated American players have felt for the last 10 years...
I sincerely hope that Australian's frustration doesn't last anything like as long as that...

KK

 

[theslotsking]

A lot of the decision making is about responsible gambling and player protection. Regulation generally protects consumers, and while there are a number of people on here like myself who are annoyed by these changes the vast majority of Australians couldn't care less.

The max bet at clubs and pubs is between $5-10 a spin yet I could go home 24x7 and spend up to $500 a spin or $8k on multi handed blackjack per hand.
The recent reports also looked at the number of Australians losing money to "dodgy" casino's who never pay.

I understand the governments logic but there should be a compromise.

 

[randomiam]

Any news on slotsmillion

multi platform been playing there a long time now pretty happy have not received any email to kick the aussie yet been using skrill via cc and poli to deposit and direct bank transfer from skrill to cashout i also use skrill for a few of the china webites when buying laptop parts.

 

[mina1929]

multi platform been playing there a long time now pretty happy have not received any email to kick the aussie yet been using skrill via cc and poli to deposit and direct bank transfer from skrill to cashout i also use skrill for a few of the china webites when buying laptop parts.

I also play at Slotsmillion and I have not received any news yet. I hope we can stay there and play ones we are allowed.

I deposit via Neteller at every Casino, I don't think wallets are mentioned in the changes only casinos.

I mean really, we pay taxes and what we do with our money is our choice, I say it again, stupid controlling government!!

 

[MissRuthless]

ok so still no actual real info here as to Why... where is there a link to show Why ?

What your saying no netent and now no MG is this true ?
What about the casino guts is transferring people too ? any news on them ?

I see houseofjack has MG but i saw someone say No mg as well?

 

[KasinoKing]

ok so still no actual real info here as to Why... where is there a link to show Why ?

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MG & NetEnt are huge, publicly traded companies in the EU who dare not flout the law of other countries - other software providers will take the risk.

What your saying no netent and now no MG is this true ?

Yes.

What about the casino guts is transferring people too ? any news on them

The same will apply to them.

I see houseofjack has MG but i saw someone say No mg as well?

The same will apply to them.

KK

 

[imteaz]

Even as a Canadian, i can't play lots of games.

 

[MissRuthless]

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MG & NetEnt are huge, publicly traded companies in the EU who dare not flout the law of other countries - other software providers will take the risk.



Yes.


The same will apply to them.


The same will apply to them.

KK

What the hell.......... and I did check in case I missed something and it is Definitely Not 1st April................................................................................................................................

Okay so when will this happen to houseofjack ? Time we are transfered, 31st may ? Prior ? Already ? Later date ?

So if we went to VS same is going to happen ?

WHAT CAN WE actually play ? Seems it is all over then for us herein Australia for online fun times. MG/NetEnt are what my partner and I Only play anyway.

So if there is now no MG no point going to any other Casino then for us anyway.

 

[MissRuthless]

I just read that link you gave me I see why now when I saw, Committee of the Whole debate

Amendment details: 7 Nick Xenophon Team agreed to

20 Mar 2017


That god damn fucking useless bastard Nick Xenophon is the problem he has wanted gambling gone forever.

 

[snotter999]

Casino mate

Just beware if you play at casino mate and take any of the welcome bonus for new players or the NEWCM bonuses for players that moved from the download casino.
Withdrawals are capped at 6x deposits!

Not in the general terms and conditions that pop up from the window you see the bonus advertised in
They are in the promotional terms and conditions that can only be found in the Club Mate page.

A lot harder to find terms and conditions than it should be!

 

[snotter999]

And no i didn't get caught out.
I went to live chat and asked on there and was told capped at 6x deposit!

So i didn't deposit, might later but won't be taking that welcome bonus.
Other bonuses do not have this restriction.

 

[mina1929]

Only 5 more days to go before we say goodbye to our much loved casinos

I am devastated of course but life goes on.

Australia would not care what casinos we played at if they taxed us on our winnings.

Beautiful country but what a clueless government in every way.

 

[0zzy]

I have had my account at Betvictor terminated but no probs so far with Dublinbet which has exactly what I want when it comes to Live Games...in particular...Baccarat and Roulette.

Here's hoping...

 

[SunnyDay888]

Where is the evidence ?Hidden under a rock ?

I read this thread last week and afterwards I went looking for the possible reason why these Casinos are withdrawing from Australia .
All I could find is a new law being presented to the Australian Parliament of making online Casinos responsible .
Only unscrupulous operations would have any reason to run away .
I cannot see if this new law was passed in the Parliament last year or even this year .
It was presented by a minor party politician so anti Malcolm Turnbull comments are from toads who have an axe to grind .

If these Casinos that are leaving had live dealers then it would be a nuisance .
Random Number generators should be banned .
Michael

 

[MissRuthless]

Only 5 more days to go before we say goodbye to our much loved casinos

I am devastated of course but life goes on.

Australia would not care what casinos we played at if they taxed us on our winnings.

Beautiful country but what a clueless government in every way.

Yep was thinking about this seriously and I am going to save a hell of a lot more now I guess, as my partner nor I go to casino or land based pokies etc, not our thing

Country is going down the toilet though, beautiful kind of but certainly being designed slowly for the wealthy that is evident.

 

[SunnyDay888]

Tax ,what TAX

I wish people on here would stop spreading LIES .
Here is a quote from a well known and totally accurate source, Wikipedia :

Taxation laws on gambling in Australia
Gamblers' winnings in Australia are not taxed. There are 3 main reasons for that:

Gambling is not considered a profession, it's treated as a hobby or recreational activity.
The Australian government views gains from gambling activities not as income, but as a result of good luck. Even if someone wins big, they also lose a lot in other gambling sessions.
The government taxes gambling operators instead.
Taxation of gambling operators in Australia differs from state to state and different gambling services are taxed in a different way. There are taxes on the turnover, on player loss and net profit. As gambling operators need to obtain a license to offer their services, certain fees must also be paid at this stage of gambling business development.

The fees payable by online and Land Based Casinos are harder to find but they also get taxed on PLAYER LOSSES !!!!!

So don't you think there is something fishy about these online Casinos leaving Australia instead of blaming this Government for nearly everything ????
I am not a paid stooge for the current government .

 

[dougkpga]

Is there a definitive list of casinos Australians can play at?

 

[mina1929]

I wish people on here would stop spreading LIES .
Here is a quote from a well known and totally accurate source, Wikipedia :

Taxation laws on gambling in Australia
Gamblers' winnings in Australia are not taxed. There are 3 main reasons for that:

Gambling is not considered a profession, it's treated as a hobby or recreational activity.
The Australian government views gains from gambling activities not as income, but as a result of good luck. Even if someone wins big, they also lose a lot in other gambling sessions.
The government taxes gambling operators instead.
Taxation of gambling operators in Australia differs from state to state and different gambling services are taxed in a different way. There are taxes on the turnover, on player loss and net profit. As gambling operators need to obtain a license to offer their services, certain fees must also be paid at this stage of gambling business development.

The fees payable by online and Land Based Casinos are harder to find but they also get taxed on PLAYER LOSSES !!!!!

So don't you think there is something fishy about these online Casinos leaving Australia instead of blaming this Government for nearly everything ????
I am not a paid stooge for the current government .

We all know that Australian gamblers don't get taxed, if you were referring to my comment I said if we were taxed.

I personally do not think there is anything fishy about the accredited casinos I play at.

And most would agree the Australian government is not making the best decisions in a lot of areas. That is a different subject though and each to their own

 

[plasticnote]

just read the T&C of HOJ, if they do not remove the 4000 max per week and do not payout in 4 hours like other iGamingCloud casinos, I am not going to play there.
Are HOJ even considered as accredited by casinomeister?

 

[Vibroverb]

this sort of thing happened in some European countries too, where the local law required the Casino and Sportsbetting company to pay something like 20% of the Turnover, turnover amounts can be astronomical and there's is no logical reason to accept such a requirement, in my opinion, had they had a more sensible approach, the companies would have gotten licences, 5% - 10% of winnings is still good money to be earning for no work at all, but they got greedy with chasing the turnover amounts

 

[crikeym8]

I wish people on here would stop spreading LIES .
Here is a quote from a well known and totally accurate source, Wikipedia :

Taxation laws on gambling in Australia
Gamblers' winnings in Australia are not taxed. There are 3 main reasons for that:

Gambling is not considered a profession, it's treated as a hobby or recreational activity.
The Australian government views gains from gambling activities not as income, but as a result of good luck. Even if someone wins big, they also lose a lot in other gambling sessions.
The government taxes gambling operators instead.
Taxation of gambling operators in Australia differs from state to state and different gambling services are taxed in a different way. There are taxes on the turnover, on player loss and net profit. As gambling operators need to obtain a license to offer their services, certain fees must also be paid at this stage of gambling business development.

The fees payable by online and Land Based Casinos are harder to find but they also get taxed on PLAYER LOSSES !!!!!

So don't you think there is something fishy about these online Casinos leaving Australia instead of blaming this Government for nearly everything ????
I am not a paid stooge for the current government .

Theres a very good reason why we in OZZ dont get taxed on winnings. Put simply, we have the worst slot machine payout percentages in the Western world. 86% . Then there are the lotterys, tattslotto is family owned business family .. """ 100-year veil of secrecy surrounding the names of the Tattersall’s beneficiaries .. The payouts for weekly tattlotto can be as low as 20% of the total revenue derived.

So yea, maybe we dont get taxed, but we get bent over and shafted in other ways.

 

[plasticnote]

Theres a very good reason why we in OZZ dont get taxed on winnings. Put simply, we have the worst slot machine payout percentages in the Western world. 86% . Then there are the lotterys, tattslotto is family owned business family .. """ 100-year veil of secrecy surrounding the names of the Tattersall’s beneficiaries .. The payouts for weekly tattlotto can be as low as 20% of the total revenue derived.

So yea, maybe we dont get taxed, but we get bent over and shafted in other ways.

Could not agree more...

how bad it is, my personal experience ,many time, 300x bet bankroll on a low/medium variant slots and not even get a feature. And consider you lucky if you get a 200-300x win once in a month...if you play often...

 

[lockinlove]

Just wanna throw some input in here about casino mate. I have not had a good experience with these guys at all. It seems to be one of those casinos run by robots and uncaring people and too busy to bother with most situations.

I was asked to send in KYC documents 6 weeks ago. I did and I still havent heard back. Ive asked chat once a week whats the problem and they just tell me security hasnt gotten around to it yet. After 1 week I was pretty much not going to play with them because if this is any reflection on payments or issues being sorted, I dont want to be involved. I kept up with it to see how long it would take and I still have the same response. Security will get around to it at some point.

This is a casino that is accredited here but I will not play with in the future.

 

[mina1929]

Just wanna throw some input in here about casino mate. I have not had a good experience with these guys at all. It seems to be one of those casinos run by robots and uncaring people and too busy to bother with most situations.

I was asked to send in KYC documents 6 weeks ago. I did and I still havent heard back. Ive asked chat once a week whats the problem and they just tell me security hasnt gotten around to it yet. After 1 week I was pretty much not going to play with them because if this is any reflection on payments or issues being sorted, I dont want to be involved. I kept up with it to see how long it would take and I still have the same response. Security will get around to it at some point.

This is a casino that is accredited here but I will not play with in the future.

That's no good, I have been with Casino Mate for about 2 years now.

I don't remember how long it took for me to be verified but it wasn't that long at all.

I haven't made a withdrawal there for a while but when I did it it was 24 hour pending and next day or two in account.

They might be quicker now I think

 

[lockinlove]

That's no good, I have been with Casino Mate for about 2 years now.

I don't remember how long it took for me to be verified but it wasn't that long at all.

I haven't made a withdrawal there for a while but when I did it it was 24 hour pending and next day or two in account.

They might be quicker now I think

yeah maybe its just one of those things where I get bad service but others do okay.